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    Do you think shutting down our "Voice" helps or hurts MMDL?
    Hurts. Yet again alienateing their own members
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    Helps. Exposes the very problem. Brings awareness
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    Skizrock
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Do you think shutting down our "Voice" helps or hu Reply with quote

    I honestly think the topic Bassman started had alot of merit. It was very direct. I also understand from an anonymous source that there was some discussion behind the table about Pete. This lends credibility to the premeditation on J## T######. (self edit, wouldnt want to be liable right?) If this is the case, good ole Bassman was right in making his statement.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    i also have a source and it had nothing to do with that.......
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I cant remember there being much more than Don talk, even that seemed to stop.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    i think it was all put together into a big negative barrel, and rolled on out
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I think alot of what has been going on with the league is very disheartining. The lack of player, the disorginization of singles tournaments, the 2/3 cricket. Does anyone know the process for becoming an AD. I mean not by the rules, but the actual process someone may have witnessed in the past. Can new blood make in roads. Its such a historic league it deserves new blood.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    The last 3 South AD's have all come from the same dart team, so you must have to have the tourch passed on to you??

    I know the rules state that the captains of the area as supposed to vote in the AD. At first captains meeting where you drop off rosters someone (maybe DB) said here is the new SS AD and he followed it with a quick anyone object (granted there were about 10 captains standing there). No one said anything and it was done.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    this is my last season.have more fun at luck of the draws anyway...think whats the league offer you.. a trophy?? big deal...no one to listen to you??no more mmdl tournaments...so not much going for it as far as i'm concerned---what was said on mmdl to get it closed?anyone know??? Shocked
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Probably something about fecies. AKA Poopie LOL Laughing
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    i can fling poop like a zoo monkey with the best of them Shocked
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    i'm baaaaaaaaack poopie
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    hey i'm a lance corporal--that sounds painful?? Shocked
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I noticed something while visting the MMDL site. The board met on Monday night. I wonder if this was a topic for discussion. If so and it was voted on, I would guess we wouldnt see the forums back for at least 3 months. Just a theory. Does anyone know anyone who attends the meetings. I would think CarolR.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    It's supposed to be an open meeting, but that's not how it works. You have to let them know in advance if there's a topic you want to discuss so they can plan time for you. They made me write a letter outlining my discussion topic, then told me they'd notify me in writing within the next week or two. I waited over a month and finally got my answer in an e-mail. After your time is done your then asked to leave so they can discuss league matters. So much fo an "open" meeting.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    the board is just saying do as your told....we are the league do as we ask!!!! Shocked
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    TMOC wrote:
    It's supposed to be an open meeting, but that's not how it works. You have to let them know in advance if there's a topic you want to discuss so they can plan time for you. They made me write a letter outlining my discussion topic, then told me they'd notify me in writing within the next week or two. I waited over a month and finally got my answer in an e-mail. After your time is done your then asked to leave so they can discuss league matters. So much fo an "open" meeting.

    Im trying to go home here Tom. Are you kidding me? That is the biggest piece of trash thing i have heard. That is not an open meeting. All that just to bring something up. Then at capt meeting the skirt the AD vote with a verbal,"do you, do you?" Utterly bogus. The more the day goes on the more this crap gets deep. We need to do something. Start a new league, call it the Ballintine League. That would put it right in their faces. Man they got me on the "chip" (any bubbathelovesponge fans?)
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    That's the way I was treated Skiz. Suzy can verify that, she was there at the time. When John Finnergan had an idea for the league, Tommy Sammarco drove to his house to meet him. I was so pissed off when I heard that. Make me jump through hoops, then leave me hanging while you make a special road trip for someone else? I will never do another meeting with them for anything. All I wanted was an affiliation of some kind. I asked if I could put their logo on my tournament flyers, like the ADO logo for other tournaments. Endorsed by, supported by, whatever legal term they wanted was fine with me. Shot down.

    Guess what? My Dart Challenge series is a runaway success and the MMDL is still trying to pay it's bills from the Clipper on the River from 4 years ago. Maybe they should request a meeting with me, in writing of course.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    tom your tournaments are a success because they are for the players & everyone knows it . but with the mmdl sponsored tournaments it was what they could get from the players. they ran our regions 4 major tournaments into the ground thru greed & what they could take for themselves so now we have to go out of state to play in a dart tournament. when we ask questions to try to make a better dart league they ignore us & leave us the forum to discuss problems & when they don't like what we say there they shut it down. so skizrock is right it's time to start another dart league on tuesday night to compete with mmdl.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    We should take some time this week into next and put some ideas together. Arrange a time and a place, maybe over a beer and figure this out. There are some thing and people in place that may be able to help facilitate the league. What the Patriot league is doing is exactly the type of league format that could work. Lets begin the dialogue and set up a the time and place. WE may want to consider all the options, including becoming a part of something else that exists or even an ADA affiliation.
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    ????????COMING SOON TO A DART BOARD NEAR YOU?????????


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    Nice, there something to that. Someone has been thinking. Cape Ann Cup 2007.
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    seperate from that Very Happy
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    yes Shocked
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    i'm all for it Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Hey I'm all for meeting over some beers-let's really look at joing an established player orientated league,like the Patriot League or as Skiz has spoke of -the ADA.Just think it would be a smoother transition to join as proposed to creating a new league.I'm open to all ideas however.Let's do it.I'm in!!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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    PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I put a brain dump in an image regarding (my idea of a) dart league setup and operation in the URL below. This would serve as a good start, I think, on what the considerations are.

    http://www.doublecork.com/images/league.jpg

    [Note (12 May): this file has been removed from the web site; anyone who wants to view it send me a pm or email.]


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