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    Do you have a need for better finger grip control/feel?
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    No
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    PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Finger Grip Wax Tablet Users Reply with quote

    For those not in the know, Finger Grip Wax is marketed as an accessory for dart grip assistance. Here's a link to a site selling them. http://www.a-zdarts.com/acc/grip.asp

    I am curious and want to ask, do serious dart players have a real need for finger grip assistance? If so, would such an accessory/tool/gear, offering not just added grip, but a superior feel, better control, and added spring action, fulfill a real need to a serious dart player?

    Send me PM if you're a serious dart player with a need for better finger grip control/feel. I will send free samples of a product idea for your evaluation.
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    PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Thanks Phillip.

    Folks, this is a chance to participate in some research. If you would like to take part in Phillips study please PM him and let him know.

    Thanks
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    PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I have used rosin in the past but understand it is being phased out now I am using the wax and find it works pretty well. I would be interested to try your idea unless it is super sticky like pine tar.
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    PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Never use the stuff nor have I seen anyone use it.
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    PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I would be interested in checking it out. I have found recently that dry erase marker residue makes my fingers greasy. In my current league, we mark our own scores.
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    PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I'll give it a shot. I sent a PM. I need all the help I can get when I try to take out 78 via the T14. Laughing Laughing (Sorry, that's from another thread.)

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    PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    i use rosin, but would consider an alternative..
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I have been using wax for years.
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I received the info on the product idea. I think most of us would have a problem throwing while using this product. While I don't want a dart slipping out of my fingers, I think in order to throw accurately, I need to be able to feel the dart.

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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I have no idea at all if I would use it or not. I do know that I lick my fingers. So, I am using something to help the dart stick. (That sounds gross.) Perhaps I could replace the gross habit of licking my fingers with something to help my grip. For free, I'm willing to give it a try.
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I have already PM'd Phillip. I also lick my fingers in the cold weather months! I do have some doubts about not being able to "Feel" the dart, but I'll give it a shot!
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I'm up for it too. What's the worst that happens, it doesn't help? It's free. If I can help pilot and/or improve it great.
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    CaptCanada wrote:
    Never use the stuff nor have I seen anyone use it.


    Phil Taylor is not reaching into his pocket to count his coins. Laughing
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Taechon wrote:
    CaptCanada wrote:
    Never use the stuff nor have I seen anyone use it.


    Phil Taylor is not reaching into his pocket to count his coins. Laughing


    I heard Taylor uses Chaulk.
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    All I know is that he has something in that pocket that he is rubbing. Laughing
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Taken from "Unicorn News."

    From Tungsten Kid, Canada : When I watch you throw, you appear to have a very noticeable way of exhaling when you release your dart. What do you do to control your breathing and is it something you do to control adrenaline or nerves ? Also,do you use grip wax ? I ask this because I see you reach in your pocket before throwing at times and assume it is some sort of grip assistance.

    Phil Taylor: It's just my natural way of throwing. No intentional technique on my part I have just always thrown that way. And yes I do use grip wax.
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Wow I stand corrected. I was told by a certain US Pro that Taylor used chaulk.
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    PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    USUALCHAOS wrote:
    Wow I stand corrected. I was told by a certain US Pro that Taylor used chalk


    Phil has grip wax in his pocket, bu dabs his hand into his case from time to time - there is chalk dust in his case. Smile
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    PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I have spent some time with the new grips and find that the ridges may have to be removed in order to get more of a 'feel' for the dart in my hand, although I have only spent about an hour using them. I switch from throwing with and then without them on. It is going to take more time to see if I can adjust to the lack of 'feel'. Just an early feedback, hoping to read what others think.
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    PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    LOL,
    Anyone confused? Could have just posted a link to a site and asked if we would like to give them a try.

    These are "Micro Gel Grips," a very soft rubbery finger glove with ridges that resemble a spider's web over the pads of the thumb and finger. They have a very similar consistancy to a soft gummy bear.

    They are used by money counters, postal clerks or others that must do a lot of paper handling. "Sort, Shuffle and Collate with Ease. Great for Scrapbooking and Crafts." They are reversable and washable.

    Here is a link to the website.

    http://www.tippibrand.com/

    As a moderator I think that this guy should have just gone to Erik and said "Hey, I've got a product I would like to post on your website and I will give away free product to anyone interested. I really want to see if there is a market for these in the sport of darts. (Oh! Wait! He did that!) LOL So why wasn't a link posted to the site so interested parties could check them out? I don't know. Some sort of mysterious marketing ploy perhaps?

    My biggest complaint is that I was expecting a sample of grip wax and what I got were finger protectors. After all the link to grip wax was mentioned and the link was to rosin. I had no idea at all what these things were when I first got them.

    So, I gave them a try. Big thumbs down from me. First, they are more equipment to worry about. (The same reason I don't use or have not yet tried grip wax. I mean, where am I supposed to stick the stuff and how many shirts or pants will I ruin because I left it in a pocket?)

    Second, while the finger protectors are quite sticky and do seem to increas friction, I seemed to loose feel on the dart. My aim just did not seem as good with the grips as without them. I also noticed them too much on my fingers, even the clear. If it was not the feel of them on my fingers it was the actual sight of them that was distracting. I imagine this could be easily overcome by someone who really liked the product.

    In the end, they are grippy, they did not help me with feel or control, and they are springy. And now, after not getting the grip wax I was hoping for, I have a real desire to give it a try. I'll buy some the next time I am in Song tan.

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    As long as we are thinking inventions. Come up with something that has the same texture and that can be painted onto fingertips in a micro thin layer and you may have something that dart players, in my opinion, would use. About 100 times thinner than the current product and that can be applied like finger nail polish. Hmmmm? Yes, something I might like to see.
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    PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Tae, back when I did most of my own automotive repairs I used something called liquid glove. I'm sure there is something similar out there that could be used for better grip, but I wouldn't know what it is.
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    Thanks for the feedback guys.
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    Taechon wrote:
    As long as we are thinking inventions. Come up with something that has the same texture and that can be painted onto fingertips in a micro thin layer and you may have something that dart players, in my opinion, would use. About 100 times thinner than the current product and that can be applied like finger nail polish. Hmmmm? Yes, something I might like to see.

    I think that is the right direction to go. These Micro Gel Grips were definitely too thick and squishy, leaving no feel for the dart. For comparison I grabbed a latex glove from the chem lab at work, and even that is too thick. So you've got to go even thinner than that.

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