Setting up your shots and maximising your opportunities

Discussion in 'Practice, Strategy & Technique' started by Barry_French, Oct 10, 2014.

  1. Barry_French

    Barry_French New Member

    I've been analyzing the way that I used to think about the game and my setting up of certain shots. I used to scream at the players on TV if they didn't do something the way that I felt that they should do it.

    Most players perception is that you should be setting up your shots when sub-300 but this to me is completely wrong. Assuming I don't hit above 100 with my first throw, my setting up starts immediately after the first throw - I want to leave myself a 6 darter at almost any cost.

    This is where I'm now stuck in two minds as to my approach. Lets say I have 420 left after first throw, then hit S20. My approach used to be very dogmatic, I would aim for the Bull and if I only hit S25 then I would go for another bull to either leave 325 or 350. My approach was purely theoretical, I never really got to try it in league games because it was all 301.

    The more I think about it although I know it is mathematically the right thing to do I also think about the implications of costing myself a potential 20 points.

    Whenever I have raised the point before people say "well if you aren't good enough to hit T20 why go for the bull?" A rather ignorant viewpoint - I feel that anyone at any time could hit a 180! It is good practice not to underestimate anybody whatsoever.

    The likelyhood of hitting a 180 followed by 170 is remote even for professionals but why leave anything to chance? Shouldn't we also treat all opponents the same way?

    How far do you go to ensure you maximise your opportunities? It seems like the professionals don't go far enough. When you see them leave 339, 342/3/5/6/8/9 etc. Is it the right to do from an etiquette standpoint?
  2. JohnP

    JohnP Member

    I don't pay any attention at all to my score until I have a dart that could reach the 160-170 range. Then I start to avoid landing on bad numbers. I'm not saying this is the best way - there are numbers to avoid landing on above that range. But I like to keep it simple and just go for max points.

    I'm not sure I agree with going bull on 2nd dart from 400, anyway. I get that it's easier to hit two 25's to have a six dart out than to hit triples. But you're also shorting yourself if you actually hit that bull. That last dart at 350 would have to go at 60 to leave a five-dart out. And that out will be a fifth dart at the bull, which if it misses will probably leave you 25 and no out for the sixth dart. If you went 120 from 400, you have a five-dart out on the D20, which should leave you a sixth dart at it or D10 if you miss.

    Maybe it's just six of one, half a dozen of another (pun intended), but I like my chances better staying on the 20.
  3. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    With 420 on the board and a single 20, if the dart is laying right I'll try to stick in two T20's to leave me 280. Why leave 300 when you can leave 280? Not sure I understand that. After all, with 280 remaining I just need to stick in two 140's to finish in 6 and I think that's more likely than leaving 300 in which I have to shoot 140+160 or 180+120 etc etc....

    I agree though, that if you are throwing at a higher level you have to think about the finish early on.

    I would also say that it depends on whether you started first (your leg) or second (your opponents leg) and whether or not you need to take one against the throw or not. So many other factors can be involved too
  4. Robot

    Robot New Member

    I think Whitlock is one of the best set up men (and finishers) in the game today. To the average player it may seem as he's just jumping around the board. He knows what he's doing and he's good at it.
    That being said, Phil Taylor also knows what he's doing. Does he leave bogus numbers like 162 sometimes? Sure. But he sure does beat a lot of players do the double...and then hit it.
    It's easy to think too much in this game, so unless you can memorize all of those shots in the 400s, and are capable of hitting 180 followed by 164, then just hit big scores and get down to a manageable out.

    One number that always sticks out in my head is 246. It happens fairly often, I'm on 261 and hit a trip 5 with the first dart it leaves 246, and that triggers me to go 19s as 4 of them leaves a finish. I also subtract as I go once I get under 310 or so. That takes practice for most people as it did for myself who didn't start that way.

    Basically in all of this rambling, I'm trying to say don't mess up your scoring rhythm in the 400s to get on some "out track", when as soon as you miss a dart it was all for not.

    And for the record, I just loooove when my blind draw partner comes back from his first turn and tells me, "I got us even!" Great, we went from 401 to 382. lol
  5. Showboat00

    Showboat00 Member

    Hey, when was I your blind draw partner?
  6. KopRalph11

    KopRalph11 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin

  7. Robot

    Robot New Member

    Haha that's awesome. :lol:

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