Reason to be upset?

Discussion in 'Practice, Strategy & Technique' started by Ar15, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. Ar15

    Ar15 New Member

    New here. Been a long time browser. Recently I got upset at a another dart player for what i like to call "Point Hoarding". I have seen this person play cricket before. Usually closes out a game in 10 rounds or less. Me and my friend offer to play him and his friend and another team and their friend. Mind you the third team is not that good Each player throws in money winner takes the pot. I watched this guy and his friend do the same thing the game before. Most electronic dart games has a 30 round limit. The guy and his friend racked up over 600 points in the game. While one team had everything closed out. The weaker team which was the third team had nothing really closed out. The guy kept racking and racking up points only thing he had closed out was 20's and 18's team three refused to hit 20 and 18 to close it. I asked the guy what he was doing and he said "racking up as many points as i can until 30" this upset me because I know the guy is much better than that. He closes out cricket games in 10 rounds or less. Me and my partner are sitting here with everything closed out trying to match him and his points. if i wanted to played 901 i would have asked to play 901. The guy turns every cricket game into a 30 round limit game with the most points as possible. Do i have a right to be upset? or am i Over reacting?
     
  2. Shannonmiles

    Shannonmiles Active Member

    Nope. No right to be upset. He plays his way. You play yours. If you out shoot him you win.... if not you lose. The only people that complain about "point mongering" are people that have lost the game. Maybe he is just cheap and would rather throw 30 rounds for his money than 10 lol. Silly soft tip. Seriously..... if he is way ahead and does not advance the game the only person that gains an advantage are his opponents.... in other words it gives you more time to mount a comeback but ONLY you can throw the darts to make it happen.

    On a side note..... "a reason to be upset?" Do you really need a "reason"? You obviously ARE upset and perhaps that fact alone was your opponents reason for playing how he did. Serves two masters he won the game and won the mental battle over his foe. Stay in your own head and worry only about what you can control....which is your play. JMHO
     
  3. Drtr

    Drtr New Member

    I agree 100%
    I'll make it simple... If you don't like it shoot better!
    IMO darts is a game of mental toughness, and it sounds like he got the better of you.

    You just can't let that bother you like Shannonmiles said, you can only control YOUR darts!
     
  4. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    Points is part of the game, don't get upset (that's when you lose) get even.

    If it were me I'd see each game as a challenge to crush him into submission! lol
     
  5. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    Oh and welcome to the forum! :D
     
  6. JinRI

    JinRI Member

    A guy I know from a money league in the area gets mad when anyone goes after ANY extra points in Cricket instead of moving on to another number. Larry (SM), you might know who I'm talking about.
     
  7. CraigB

    CraigB Best looking Craig B in the forum! $:-{P> Staff Member Site Admin

    There were a few in my area that get very crusty if you get more than just a one mark lead.

    Why? They want to intimidate you into not getting enough points to win so they have a chance to come from behind and win. Some will do other things that are labeled "Gamesmanship" but are really just poor sportsmanship.
     
  8. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    This
     
  9. AmericanBadAss

    AmericanBadAss Administrator Staff Member Site Admin

    2 times I've gotten annoyed about points in 14 yrs.

    1..we had a lead and the other team bitched about points, but when they got the lead and continued to point there was no issue at all..which from me there wasn't. I told the capt after the game (which we won) that it's poor sportsmanship to complain in a raised voice that can be heard at the line during the opponent's turn, and that if they take points they have no business complaining when the opponent does.

    1..at a tournament my opponent had all #s closed, I had 2 closed. He kept throwing points at 20 to the point of having a 600 point lead. After the game I asked if he was that scared of me since I couldn't hit cork. He said "oh I was going for cork and missed". Nah, you didn't miss a cork and hit a double 20 nice try. However, I did get to watch Legionofdoom demolish him next round haha
     
  10. Michelle

    Michelle New Member

    The ones that irritate me (at the very beginning of a game) throw a T20 to close then keep throwing 20s to point. I don't understand the reasoning...
     
  11. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    It's smart cricket. I ALWAYS wanted at least a 5 mark on the 20 to open. Why? It takes a 9 mark to beat.

    Think about it this way:

    I throw T20, S20, S20. I have 20's closed and 40 points (technically I have 20's open but no one says that anymore)...

    You must throw T19 to be able to point, then T19 to beat my 40 points and finally a T20 to stop me from taking the game back.

    it's simple: Shooting 5 20's to open is smart darts.

    Shooting 7 is even better darts ;)
     
  12. BlackHorse

    BlackHorse Moderator Site Moderator

    Michelle, I will sometimes stay there simply because I have the range and want to get the most out of my darts. If I hit a five with my second dart, I'll move on to 19s or 18s, lol.
     
  13. Michelle

    Michelle New Member

    Yes, technically, the 20's would be open, and I almost said that but chose the more common phrasing instead. LOL ;)

    Okay then…perhaps I need to rethink my strategy for opening with 20s. Thanks, guys.
     
  14. CraigB

    CraigB Best looking Craig B in the forum! $:-{P> Staff Member Site Admin

    Lately, it's very rare for an opponent against me to shoot at the 20's first if they win the cork. They usually try to close the 19's so I won't bury them with 'em. :twisted:

    (Of course, the flip side is that my 20's are leaving a lot to be desired right now so they figure they can always go back later... :roll: :( )
     
  15. KopRalph11

    KopRalph11 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin

    I personally think there is nothing wrong with being upset. By having that 30 round limit. That simply opens the gate to different ways of winning. That comes down to what your opponent is comfortable with. He is a point monger. And that is fine. Its the way he has chosen to play the game. And lets face it its upsetting to loose that way. Just be aware that is how the person has chosen to play.

    The Flip Side: I know a player that is an incredible close and go player. He will just rattle off trip after trip. The only way I can even get into the game is to point and to point heavy. It can be a very helpless feeling. If you loose the cork then chances are you are losing the game. I rather have a chance of out scoring and being in the game then have someone sweep the board.

    There is a fine line of being chicken and a smart player. And sometimes they are the same thing. Imo do what works for you. And get your game to the point where you can do the same to them. Versatility is the name of the game imo.
     
  16. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    At Camellia a number of years back I lost the 1st leg of Cricket to a 'close and go' player of high caliber....next leg I slammed points right off and he was upset...the battle ensued and I took the game away on poinst...next leg he tried to close the game out fast and almost did but I stopped him on the 16's and 15's and rammed the points home for a win.

    he was visibly upset to lose that way but folks fail to realize a loss is a loss and when you lose because of points that means you lost. Period.

    The other player either out threw you or out played you.
     
  17. AmericanBadAss

    AmericanBadAss Administrator Staff Member Site Admin

    With a round limit it makes sense. If it becomes a point war there is a small advantage to the player who has the ability to point on the highest number.
     
  18. Chitown599

    Chitown599 Administrator Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    The game of Cricket has many different strategies, but only one winning strategy. Throw better than your opponent. To show annoyance over being scored on, "even if it's not needed", is to show defeat.
    The team that was doing all the scoring without closing any numbers except 20's, and 18's, had to close numbers to win. Had you thrown better, you could have easily beaten him. Remember, you already had all your numbers closed, so all your darts should have counted for points, whereas your opponents darts had to be split between keeping the point lead, and closing numbers.
    So to get upset over having someone point like crazy, is not the way to go. No reason to get upset over the way someone plays the game. Instead, figure out a way to keep him from doing it, and turn the tables on him. Smile, and keep playing.
     
  19. Showboat00

    Showboat00 Member

    As most responses above point out, points are part of the game in Cricket - that wouldn't bother me. However, I do have an issue with 3-way cricket where you can pile up points so long as any opponent has failed to close the number. For 3-way games, I much prefer a "cut-throat" version where continuing to hit a closed number gives points only to the opponent(s) who has failed to close that number. The objective, then, is to close out all the numbers and have the least amount of points.
     
  20. JohnP

    JohnP Member

    Exactly. Cut-throat is the only way to play three-way, especially for money. You can stop him from pointing you, so he'll have to move on. In regular three-way, you can't control what he throws at.
     

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