9 Darter Starter Kit

Discussion in 'Practice, Strategy & Technique' started by BlackHorse, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    For fun I shot this and hit 44. Honestly, I like this practice and had forgotten about it. Thanks for bringing it back up! I KNOW I can do a lot better than 44 so I better shoot it some more ;)
     
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  2. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    John Part (Darth Maple) hasn't visited the site in a long time and Blackhorse does once in a blue moon -- maybe I'll poke him on FB and get him to drop by ;)
     
  3. BlackHorse

    BlackHorse Moderator Site Moderator

    I'm back VanO. Still plodding along. Age and stuff has my mechanics always varying a bit, but the 2D logic will always apply, imo. And set up is crucial, I believe. For example, if you don't move side to side when changing targets, the 2D no longer applies, does it.
     
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  4. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    In my case 'a lot' :p
     
  5. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    BH good to have you! What I’m curious about are what are you “checkpoints” during setup. I came out of a career in golf instruction and it was important to understand the concept of the “machine.” In golf for me it sometimes was as simple as get the setup complete and then a subtle turn while my trailing arm folded followed by a re-turn and the arm straightened the follow through resulted from that action. If ya get me. In my darts I am paying attention to my arm position and trying to apply the same. I feel like you approached the issue in a similar way so I am trying to take advantage of your experience. Thanks!
     
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  6. BlackHorse

    BlackHorse Moderator Site Moderator

    I'm not a natural at all, VanO, so unfortunately different things work different days, sometimes even changing during a league night. Frustrating. My foot position doesn't seem to be as important as I have thought over the years, but getting my eye behind my hand is. I cannot throw from in front of my face, so I angle and lean my body enough to put my right eye behind my vertical, or near vertical, throwing forearm. Locking my elbow seems to be crucial. From there, keeping my fingers from doing anything stupid is the main thing.

    The 2D theory is that if you lock your elbow and track your hand back and forth through a completely vertical path, you never have to worry about left and right targeting. You will be consistently moving through that vertical plane that is in line with the target. Shooting at the Bull is the best testing of this. Keeping your forearm at or near vertical is the best way to make that plane happen. JP of course has an angled forearm delivery, but he attempts to move his hand through that vertical plane nevertheless.

    From there, moving to a position directly in front of your target is crucial. No point having the vertical plane set up, and throwing weight consistent, if you don't move. Why change the distance to the target unnecessarily.

    I remain a mid level A division shooter, VanO, but the true gauge of personal success is how much you improve with your changes. From when I first started throwing, and joining SEWA, I have improved greatly. That is the only measure you can really go by. I mean, the top shooters were naturally better than most of us can ever be from the first time they picked up a dart. Luck of the draw. So keep improving and enjoying your darts for what they are. :)
     
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  7. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    Erik. 44is not bad. I ran it again today and was still like 51 or 52. Stick on T19. Shoot good darts but it’s seems to miss above tap wire and obstruct the next two. If I try to look below the wire for the first then I hit there and can’t seem to lay another on top of it. Murphy’s law I guess!
     
  8. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    BH thanks. Excellent! That’s exactly the kind of stuff I’m looking for. I seem to be doing similarly. When you speak of vertical or near vertical forearm are you also thinking of that from a side view or predominantly your view looking “down the line?”
    Personally I am trying to achieve both. I also try to maintain a relatively vertical spine also. I imagine a pane of glass that aligns with my spine. Then picture my shoulder, elbow and wrist touching the glass. Slide the wrist along the glass back and forth.
     
  9. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    I cheat ;) Just like a real game if I stick two where I believe the 3rd might deflect I poke the T19 with the 3rd. This 'cover dart' tends to go where I want it (when I'm not broken) and hits the T19 often. So, a S20, T20 with a bad deflection and good chance of deflecting again can turn into a S20, T20, T19 instead of another S20 or worse, a S1 :p
     
  10. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    John wrote something about this a long while back. It was his contention that keeping everything inline on that same plane was paramount to shooting well.
     
  11. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    I can seem to get everything inline except for one last thing. The idea that the dart barrel is parallel to my upper arm and the glass throughout the stroke. I check the position at the start and then can’t seem to refocus on my “spot.”
     
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  12. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    37 ;) but it took me 10 darts to hit the darn out! Sheesh
     
  13. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    This is where moving makes the diffrerence ;) Try it. I will often move to the T19 or the T18 if I don't like the lay of the darts.

    When shooting 100@20's I don't move because it's about how many I can stick in the 20's not how many I can stick where I want them but in this game I see no reason not to move. After all the T18 and T17 can be used for 9 darters. So if you are on the T20 and don't like the lay and stick a T18 instead you now need a T15 to leave you D18 for a 9 darter :) That's what I did today (in 37 darts). To clarify in this game the object is to hit the 9 darts required for a 9 darter in as many darts as it takes. One could, conceivably hit 3 167's to do this though that might take a lot longer than trying to hit 7 T20's, 1 T19 and a D12 :D
     
  14. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    I will! I know what you mean. Somehow I guess I was just blocking myself into thinking I had to go the way BH proscribed rather than thinking of how I would go if I was in a match.
     
  15. CraigB

    CraigB Best looking Craig B in the forum! $:-{P> Staff Member Site Admin

    Blackie's always been an unnatural. :D
     
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  16. BlackHorse

    BlackHorse Moderator Site Moderator

    Are you talking about which way to take out the 141? No need to go the T20/T19/D12 route. If I ever got there, lol, I myself would actually try T20/T15/D18.
     
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  17. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    LOL or you could do that and write T17
     
  18. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    No it was just me thinking “I must first hit 7 T20 then 1 T19 followed by D12” I like the game feel if I move around now.
     
  19. VanO

    VanO Moderator Site Moderator

    I think I’d really make someone crazy and shoot at D20, T17, D bull :D
     
  20. Erik

    Erik Site Owner Staff Member Site Admin Site Moderator

    LOL well if you ever get there and do it so often you need a change LOL
     

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